"MultiplaOrgasms" (themightymultipla)
01/24/2015 at 18:53 • Filed to: Rankings, Citroen FTW
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"MultiplaOrgasms" (themightymultipla)
01/24/2015 at 18:53 • Filed to: Rankings, Citroen FTW | 2
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Just a small list of cars that managed the Teknikens Värld moose test at a speed of more than 80kph (50mph).
No further comment.
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Zipppy, Mazdurp builder, Probeski owner and former ricerboy
> MultiplaOrgasms
01/24/2015 at 18:58 |
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I now know what I should import next.
Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
> MultiplaOrgasms
01/24/2015 at 18:59 |
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The Nissan really sticks out...
davedave1111
> MultiplaOrgasms
01/24/2015 at 19:09 |
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I'd love to have a go in an Activa-spec Xantia, but they're hard to find. I suspect that the suspension doesn't actually make it good to drive, though, and otherwise Xantias are extremely boring by Citroen standards.
Manuél Ferrari
> MultiplaOrgasms
01/24/2015 at 19:13 |
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are these the only cars tested that were able to pass the test above 80 km / h?
Fred (FreddsterExprs)
> MultiplaOrgasms
01/24/2015 at 19:18 |
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That looks spectacular.
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MultiplaOrgasms
> davedave1111
01/24/2015 at 19:20 |
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It's a big Citroën and it should drive like one too. And even though the Xantia was more conventional than it's predecessors, it was probably one of the best cars Citroën ever made.
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MultiplaOrgasms
> Manuél Ferrari
01/24/2015 at 19:21 |
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The only ones listed on the Teknikens Värld website.
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MultiplaOrgasms
> Fred (FreddsterExprs)
01/24/2015 at 19:24 |
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This could have been a worthy successor to the SM in my opinion. If you want to know a little bit more about it, here you go.
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Manuél Ferrari
> MultiplaOrgasms
01/24/2015 at 19:26 |
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interesting
Super impressive that the Ferrari TR is on the list. It's an old car. Not only was it built in the 80s, but I think it was an evolution of a chassis that came out in the 70s. I believe the TR was an evolution of the 512BB
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MultiplaOrgasms
> Manuél Ferrari
01/24/2015 at 19:29 |
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Same goes for the big Citroën, the Nissan and the Opel.
Tareim - V8 powered
> MultiplaOrgasms
01/24/2015 at 19:31 |
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your full list link goes to a Citroën page
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Manuél Ferrari
> MultiplaOrgasms
01/24/2015 at 19:31 |
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yes. I have no idea which cars those are because we don't have them here and I've never read about them. But they definitely stand out
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MultiplaOrgasms
> Tareim - V8 powered
01/24/2015 at 19:32 |
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(Hopefully) Corrected.
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Fred (FreddsterExprs)
> MultiplaOrgasms
01/24/2015 at 19:33 |
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Thanks so much, I was about to ask.
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MultiplaOrgasms
> Manuél Ferrari
01/24/2015 at 19:35 |
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The Opel is just a Cadillac Catera without rebadge.
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Tareim - V8 powered
> MultiplaOrgasms
01/24/2015 at 19:37 |
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yep that's working now
this is not matt farah's foxbodymiata
> MultiplaOrgasms
01/24/2015 at 19:39 |
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Who decided to drive a GT3 RS into a crash test moose at 82kph hahaha
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MultiplaOrgasms
> this is not matt farah's foxbodymiata
01/24/2015 at 19:44 |
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I should point out that this moose test is actually an evasive maneuver, because lets face it most drivers would try to avoid the moose if it ran in front of the car.
PardonMyFlemish16
> Manuél Ferrari
01/24/2015 at 19:45 |
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Its a wide mofo. You would need a forklift to flip it.
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Manuél Ferrari
> PardonMyFlemish16
01/24/2015 at 19:58 |
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ha ha true
I think we all need to buy one
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Manuél Ferrari
> MultiplaOrgasms
01/24/2015 at 19:59 |
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and it looks like that Nissan is the best handling CUV of all time?
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MultiplaOrgasms
> Manuél Ferrari
01/24/2015 at 20:04 |
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In the same way that a Citroën, a 1987 Ferrari Testarossa and a Cadillac Catera handle as well as or better than 997GT3s, Corvettes and R8s.
No Prius Needed
> Manuél Ferrari
01/24/2015 at 20:05 |
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Even more reasons to buy one.
Schaefft
> MultiplaOrgasms
01/24/2015 at 20:06 |
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The wrap around rear windows made me think this was some unknowned Ford Probe concept. Turns out Ford just copied it from this Citroen concept I have never heard of before.
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Manuél Ferrari
> No Prius Needed
01/24/2015 at 20:07 |
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yessss
I've been doing more research
I think 512TR might be the god car
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Manuél Ferrari
> MultiplaOrgasms
01/24/2015 at 20:09 |
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I need that Citroën
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MultiplaOrgasms
> Schaefft
01/24/2015 at 20:16 |
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Didn't the Probe came before the Citroën tho? Aside from that, I'd agree that the '93 Probe took some elements from this.
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MultiplaOrgasms
> Manuél Ferrari
01/24/2015 at 20:17 |
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Everyone needs a Citroën in their life. Everything can be made better by adding Citroën.
I own dead car brands only
> MultiplaOrgasms
01/24/2015 at 20:19 |
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the activa looks like a stretched out Saturn.
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Manuél Ferrari
> MultiplaOrgasms
01/24/2015 at 20:20 |
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I need to move to Europe
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MultiplaOrgasms
> I own dead car brands only
01/24/2015 at 20:20 |
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More like Ford Probe meets Lexus SC400.
415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°)
> MultiplaOrgasms
01/24/2015 at 20:23 |
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I know the probe was in the works for years and Mazda was even involved at some point, took several tries to get to the one we know.
Conan
> this is not matt farah's foxbodymiata
01/24/2015 at 20:50 |
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Somebody awesome, that's who.
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this is not matt farah's foxbodymiata
> MultiplaOrgasms
01/24/2015 at 21:01 |
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Ahhhh. Now the success of a race car with tags makes more sense.
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No Prius Needed
> Manuél Ferrari
01/24/2015 at 22:54 |
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It is.
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davedave1111
> MultiplaOrgasms
01/25/2015 at 07:16 |
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Er, the Xantia's not a big Citroen. It was their midsize offering. It appears to be thoroughly dull, so if you're calling it the best Citroen ever (or one of), then I'd love to know what you're referring to.
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MultiplaOrgasms
> davedave1111
01/25/2015 at 07:51 |
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Well, we used to own a 97 Xantia Break which used to be the family hauler and my dads daily driver. For information purposes I should point out that his job requires him to commute between some of our regions major cities, which resulted in an average yearly mileage of 50.000km over ten years. Add the family holidays which usually are in southern europe (we live in northern germany) and we were up to a total mileage of 540.000km. That trusty old Citroën did it all with a bit of regular maintenance, and with the original engine and transmission. Even when we sold it, the car was in good shape even though there was quite a lot of wear on the drivetrain, but there was no rust whatsoever (try that with a 1990s Mercedes) and no piece of interior trim had fallen off. Besides, it is a special car to me as it was the car I grew up with and that actually got me interested in cars and the mechanical magic that happens underneath where you can't see it. And playing with the hydropneumatic suspensions height settings never gets old.
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davedave1111
> MultiplaOrgasms
01/25/2015 at 08:05 |
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Dull and bad are not the same thing. That's why I said, I'd like to find out what the Activa suspension was like to drive with, because apart from that the Xantia was pretty dull by Citroen standards* - but it was apparently a decent car, overall.
*Citroen standards generally include the hydropneumatic suspension, so this is a comparison to other Citroens more than to ordinary cars.
If I remember rightly, the Xantia was a contemporary of the XM, which I always loved the looks of:
And it was a replacement for the properly quirky BX:
Lookswise, at least, there's no comparison in my book:
Parkers' mini-review says much what I thought about the car. Perhaps they read/watched the same things which formed my opinion ;)
Xantia is something of an oddity. A rather forgettable ownership experience awaits those lucky enough not to suffer reliability problems. It does redeem itself with hydropneumatic suspension which gives a superb ride and there's plenty of space inside. However it doesn't have the character of Citroëns of old and will require specialist servicing to keep it on the road.
Oh, and it sounds like your dad might have been pretty lucky with the reliability of his:
http://classics.honestjohn.co.uk/reviews/citroe…
17th from bottom for reliabilty in Auto Express 2002 reader survey of 100 models. On very early Xantias, front suspension strut tops can pop through the top mountings. Citroens generally had average warranty repair costs in 2003 Warranty Direct Reliability index (index 99.84 v/s lowest 31.93).
1995-1997 petrols rated average for breakdowns and faults, poor for problems; 1995-1997 diesels rated average for breakdowns, poor for problems and faults; 1998-2000 diesels rated average for breakdowns and problems, poor for faults in 2003 Which survey.
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MultiplaOrgasms
> davedave1111
01/25/2015 at 08:32 |
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I like to think that reliability is a relative thing. Even I admit that ours wasn't completely without issues, but does one daily drive a car for ten years and 500k if it is a complete money pit? In the end reliability depends on the owner as well.
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davedave1111
> MultiplaOrgasms
01/25/2015 at 08:41 |
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Definitely. And apart from anything else, (pretty much) all cars made today are epically reliable by 70s and early 80s standards. Unreliable used to mean things like that you'd go to start it on a cold day and it wouldn't start - even though there was nothing wrong as such.
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MultiplaOrgasms
> davedave1111
01/25/2015 at 09:15 |
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Meanwhile cars back then were simple enough so you could easily repair them yourself, while the low tolerances in todays cars make the most minor of repairs a $500 job for a specialist dealer. Progress is a double-edged sword.
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davedave1111
> MultiplaOrgasms
01/25/2015 at 10:46 |
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Yes and no. Partly, what's going on there is that the simple things don't go wrong nearly as often with modern cars.
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Manuél Ferrari
> No Prius Needed
01/29/2015 at 14:22 |
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i found a 10,000 mile 512TR! emailed them for the price (no price listed) and haven't heard back
i bet you they will want $200K for it :(
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No Prius Needed
> Manuél Ferrari
01/29/2015 at 17:36 |
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Its still worth it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Manuél Ferrari
> No Prius Needed
01/29/2015 at 18:00 |
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haha you're probably right
I'll try to find the ad for it right now to share with you
The panel gaps in 90s Ferraris were hilarious!
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Manuél Ferrari
> No Prius Needed
01/29/2015 at 18:04 |
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I thought you would like this 1992 Ferrari 512TR for Call for Price on AutoTrader.com
View on website:
http://atcm.co/S2PVDP/174DA7E…
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No Prius Needed
> Manuél Ferrari
01/29/2015 at 18:39 |
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GTO62
> MultiplaOrgasms
02/03/2015 at 00:26 |
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They should just release the Citroën Activa 2 Concept as an actual production car. Still looks stunning from every angle 25 years later. What a missed opportunity to compete with the Peugeot 406 Coupé designed by Pininfarina...
GhostZ
> MultiplaOrgasms
10/27/2015 at 05:34 |
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Is it because of the hydropneumatic suspension? It’s probably the lightest modern car ever produced with that suspension. Makes me wonder if more cars had it, they would perform better on the moose test.
MichaelD
> MultiplaOrgasms
10/27/2015 at 07:41 |
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A Ford Probe, um, probe’d a Saturn SC and this was the result...
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MultiplaOrgasms
> GhostZ
10/27/2015 at 11:19 |
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Well it is partially. The Xantia came with the electronically controlled Hydractive II suspension found in other Citroëns as well, but the Activa trim also had a system called SC.CAR that added an additional sphere which acted as an active anti-roll bar and effectively eliminated body roll almost completely by simply increasing the spring stiffness on one side during cornering. Apparently in doing so it ruined the ride during cornering.
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GhostZ
> MultiplaOrgasms
10/27/2015 at 11:35 |
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How bad was it? I wouldn’t mind such a system put in the average econoboxes/accords/camrys if it meant a lot better safety on highways.
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MultiplaOrgasms
> GhostZ
10/27/2015 at 12:11 |
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How do I know, my dad only had a 90hp Diesel Wagon with the bog standard old-school hydropneumatic suspension.
Citro
> davedave1111
12/10/2015 at 11:20 |
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Hello there,
I happen to own and drive a Xantia Activa (with the TCT petrol engine), and I would like to testify that the suspension of the car makes it actually a real pleasure to drive. It’s comfortable in normal conditions, and the SC.CAR system is completely ‘transparent’. You’re not really aware that the suspension is active, the car just naturally turns flat, without rolling over. So, it’s actually comfy in every way :)
The fun thing is, also, that it is a family car (as MultiplaOrgasms pointed out), thought I would not say dull (why dull? It’s beautiful, I think). People don’t expect this family car to be such a beast, that outperforms ‘top notch’ sport cars.
Furthermore, it’s reliable if maintained normally.
In a nut shell, I love it.
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davedave1111
> Citro
12/10/2015 at 11:25 |
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Oh, awesome, I’d love to try one out. Don’t suppose you’re in the UK?
And calling it ‘boring by Citroen standards’ isn’t calling it dull, just not outright crazy.
MikeBArrento
> MultiplaOrgasms
11/29/2016 at 13:39 |
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Activas don´t have springs .....